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:D
pre65 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:36 pm Is that part of your collection Mike ? :lol:
Well, can 'one' be a collection? :lol:
 
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#14957 Re: Nothing In Particular

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Mike H wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:13 pm :D
pre65 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:36 pm Is that part of your collection Mike ? :lol:
Well, can 'one' be a collection? :lol:
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#14958 Re: Nothing In Particular

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I've got one wife . Is it the start of a collection ?
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#14959 Re: Nothing In Particular

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Daniel Quinn wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:14 am I've got one wife . Is it the start of a collection ?
Only you can know. :wink:
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#14960 Re: Nothing In Particular

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pre65 wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:25 am
Daniel Quinn wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:14 am I've got one wife . Is it the start of a collection ?
Only you can know. :wink:
I think that's his point, intent matters.

But as a C programmer I would want to know if having 0 of a thing also counts as having a collection of them?
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#14961 Re: Nothing In Particular

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That's a bit niche Nick, but I appreciated it :-)
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I did fix my speeling though.
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#14963 Re: Nothing In Particular

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That's a bit niche Nick
On a thread that's wandered into collecting manhole covers I am not sure that there is any more niche it could be.
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In a world where so many bad things happen every day, I'd applaud anything that keeps people from transgressing, even manhole cover spotting. :)
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#14965 Re: Nothing In Particular

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Nick wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:45 am
I think that's his point, intent matters.

But as a C programmer I would want to know if having 0 of a thing also counts as having a collection of them?
It's crossed my mind that if you define a class named collection then you don't have to instantiate an object of that class....but it still exists as a collection.....just sayin
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Watch out you don't start a collection of placeholders !
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#14967 Re: Nothing In Particular

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ed wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:31 pm
Nick wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:45 am
I think that's his point, intent matters.

But as a C programmer I would want to know if having 0 of a thing also counts as having a collection of them?
It's crossed my mind that if you define a class named collection then you don't have to instantiate an object of that class....but it still exists as a collection.....just sayin
Really? If you just define a class, it hasn't been instantiated, so doesn't exist other than as a concept - there is no tangible reality at that point.

Once instantiated you have an extant version of the concept.

It's like you define what a "cup" is, say, in a dictionary. At that point no cup exists... however as soon as you use that description to make a cup, one exists...
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#14968 Re: Nothing In Particular

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Really? If you just define a class, it hasn't been instantiated, so doesn't exist other than as a concept - there is no tangible reality at that point.
But what if you create a pointer to that class, but leave it set to NULL. Does the class exist then?
It's like you define what a "cup" is, say, in a dictionary. At that point no cup exists... however as soon as you use that description to make a cup, one exists...
But what if you use the description to make a cupholder? what then?
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Now we're getting Socratic and I would remind you that Marx's doctoral thesis that overthrew Hegel's position kind of nailed the whole debate; ideas spring out of material - - so....
you can't have a concept of cup until you try to use one .... or something like.

He then turned his attention to economics and politics. When touring England with his friend Freddy Engels, I am told that Karl spent many a happy detour, collecting specimens of manhole covers, from his labours to describe the state of production in the most capitalistic country in the world.
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#14970 Re: Nothing In Particular

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Class! Did someone just mention class!?
Philosophers have only interpreted the world - the point, however, is to change it. No it isn't ... maybe we should leave it alone for a while.
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